WWE Discussions Thread - RAW | ECW | SmackDown! - Week 49

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#1 hbk91
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*Preview pictures subject to appear shortly.

In this condensed WWE thread for Week 49, predict and discuss all the latest occuring on RAW, ECW, and SmackDown! in here. Be sure to frequently check WWE.com to be updated with the latest previews for each show!


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#3 The_Dude14
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So, how does the WWE restore my faith in ECW?  That's right, Bobby Lashley vs Big Show for the ECW Title.  Who am I to doubt the braintrsust of the McMahon family?
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Just read that tonight it's gonna be DX & Hardyz vs. MNM & Rated RKO.
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#5 MistaMike54
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So, how does the WWE restore my faith in ECW?  That's right, Bobby Lashley vs Big Show for the ECW Title.  Who am I to doubt the braintrsust of the McMahon family?The_Dude14

I am praying ECW takes a trip back to NYC or Philly very soon with that as the Main Event. So it gets to ovation it really deserves.

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#6 MistaMike54
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Just read that tonight it's gonna be DX & Hardyz vs. MNM & Rated RKO.trick_man01

I don't think the Hardyz will be getting much offense in being that 1) their partners are DX and 2) They have been non-stop the past 2 weeks schedule wise. 

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#7 gHoSt437
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I'm attending Raw/ECW tonight so hope they are good shows. I had seats 3 rows from the ring, but Ticketmaster sucks and timed out on the tickets ( 2 min to confirm & I had to register an account...like thats enough time). So I ended up w/ floor seats in row G (7 rows back). I'll be sure to post anything that happens off camera. Also some of you may remember I did a post last year where I met a bunch of WWE stars (Air Force, we sent them on the USO tour after the show). We are doing it again so around midnight EST we have a meet and greet again w/ WWE. I'll be sure to do a post w/ pic's and any inside info as well. I'll also see (depending on time & amount of people) if I can get DX, or Mr McMahon to cut a quick video for the union or something. I have to work 1/2 a night after all this so I'll try to get something up by tomorrow evening, or Wednesday.
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#8 KevyR
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Big main event indeed. I thought MNM would be tagging for one night. I guess they are keeping that team around. And I think the Hardy Boyz will probably be around a little longer as well... As for what happen at ECW last night, I think it was stupid that they took Sabu out, and have Bobby Lashley win the title. I like the guy, but it's TOO SOON to put the title on him. Why not trust RVD with it. Kevin Dunn must be the brain behind this. After all, he has been in Vince's head for years.
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#9 Dark_Hylian8
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this main event looks amazing, im looking forward to it
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Am I the only one who finds the way that a Hardy Boyz match goes somewhat confusing? Jeff is obviously more over in WWE's eyes, but when you look at it Matt is the one who makes the explosive entrance towards the end the match while Jeff is in the corner resting? I find it odd seeing how Matt has been used more as a jobber than a star, the opposite of Jeff.
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#11 Rage11
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A big eight-man tag scheduled for tonight: DX, The Hardys vs. Rated RKO, MNM
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#12 mrgab
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Cena vs Masters for WWE Title in Masterlock Challenge.... anyhow... Coach is too sexay for his shirt too sexay for his shirt.... :lol:
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#13 Rage11
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Unlike Cryme Tyme, Shelton Benjamin is an educlated black man.

and does this mean a WGTT reunion?!:shock:
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Well, either the Masterlock is finally going to be "broken" (its like Samoa Joe's winning streak) or WWE is going to continue its string of moronic decision-making.
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#15 mrgab
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That was a lame masterlock challenge
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#16 The_Dude14
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Well, theMasterlock segment came right out of the TNA handbook.

The Masterlock Challenge made about as much sense as any TNA Title match.  Are they going to continue to sell the Masterlock as unbroken?  And does Cena have a new Ultimate Submission to play with?  Seriously, how did any of that make sense?

The pull apart brawl reeked of Joe-Angle (though its as old as wrestling), except about a third as effective because this time it was two cartoon characters in the brawl.

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#17 mrgab
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Umm shouldnt that be a DQ win for Viscera, as the ref saw what Torrie did for Carlito.
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#18 SeriousThreat
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I believe Matt is just as if not more over with the fans than Jeff. WWE may not use him like they should, but he gets huge pops that I guess creative dont acknowlege. The crowds pretty hot for Raw tonight too. Lots of chants and heat for the heels in the main event.

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#19 KevyR
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RAW felt really lacking last night. Nothing too memorable and it felt like everything was sort of put on the last minute. I felt like watching an episode of Monday Nitro when they were going downhill.
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Anyone else notice that Matt and Jeff's Tron video said "The Hardys" last night?
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Anyone else notice that Matt and Jeff's Tron video said "The Hardys" last night?trick_man01

I did notice that.

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#22 wwe4ever_in05
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The Masterlock Challange for the WWE Title was very lame, like John Cena was going to loes to Chris F'n Masters, and if Cena would have lost he would of just gotten his rematch the next week, and beat Masters , but now I'm looking to far ahead.

Other than that it was a good RAW.

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-The beginning of Raw was a little random with Masters randomly attacking Cena.
-This feud between Mickie James and Victoria is interesting. They'll most likely face off at New Year's Revolution, and that should be a good match.
-The Cryme Tyme segment was pwnage as always. These guys kick ass. It looks like they are going to eventually feud with Shelton Benjamin and he reunited tag team partner Charlie Haas.
-I enjoyed the Cena/Umaga fight segment. They made it seemed like a heated boxing bout. The match at NYR should be good.
-I find heel Eugene hilarious, although I somewhat find it in poor taste. I can't help but laugh hearing him scream "I'M SPECIAL!!! I'M SPECIAL!!!"
-I kinda zoned out during the main event. It was boring. How did Kenny escape from the "package" sent to OVW?
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#24 mrgab
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Lame Ariel vs Kelly Kelly match, notice Kelly didnt use the Chelsea intro music, she used the song from Wreckless Intent Album, Holla which is meant for Candice.

Umm, couple of scoopy slams and Big Show couldnt kick out... whatever.

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I didn't realize that Mike Knox had any mic skills, but he's pretty good on the mic. Lashley botched the finish and it was kind of funny to see Show and Lashley making up stuff to try to fill time for another scoop slam attempt. If John Cena didn't FU Big Show like 20 times already then it would have seemed much more impressive than it did.
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#26 wwe4ever_in05
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I didn't realize that Mike Knox had any mic skills, but he's pretty good on the mic. Lashley botched the finish and it was kind of funny to see Show and Lashley making up stuff to try to fill time for another scoop slam attempt. If John Cena didn't FU Big Show like 20 times already then it would have seemed much more impressive than it did.trick_man01

Yes this is true that Lashley should be able to pick up Big Show if cena could than why not Lashley, and this make Lashley look very, very weak.

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Well Lashley wasn't going for the Scoop slam he kept trying to nail the Oklahoma slam...which he did at the end. Picking him up is hard because he so big, you not just letting him rest on your shoulders like the F-U but using just one arm. I can speak from experience it is hard to pick a really big guy(Not in a fireman carry), but putting them down with out dropping him on his head is harder.

Raw was meh....So Kenny is around and there is no more Lance "Bradshaw" Cade...and the Masters/Cena fiasco.

ECW was just a big cluster**** and thats all I have to say about that.

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#28 TheGm86
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Well Lashley wasn't going for the Scoop slam he kept trying to nail the Oklahoma slam...which he did at the end. Picking him up is hard because he so big, you not just letting him rest on your shoulders like the F-U but using just one arm. I can speak from experience it is hard to pick a really big guy(Not in a fireman carry), but putting them down with out dropping him on his head is harder.

Raw was meh....So Kenny is around and there is no more Lance "Bradshaw" Cade...and the Masters/Cena fiasco.

ECW was just a big cluster**** and thats all I have to say about that.

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#29 Rage11
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ECW really needs to go. Boring feuds, same old stuff in every match, and complete unorganization. Plus, Lashley is the ECW Champion.:roll:

-This Mike Knox/Kelly Kelly love storyline is horrible. Nobody gives a **** about Mike Knox.
-Lashley vs. Big Show was a complete snorefest. It sucks Big Show had to end his career with a crappy match like that.

The WWE needs to either get plans to trash ECW, or clean it up a bit so I can keep up with what's going on.

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#30 MistaMike54
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ECW really needs to go. Boring feuds, same old stuff in every match, and complete unorganization. Plus, Lashley is the ECW Champion.:roll:

-This Mike Knox/Kelly Kelly love storyline is horrible. Nobody gives a **** about Mike Knox.
-Lashley vs. Big Show was a complete snorefest. It sucks Big Show had to end his career with a crappy match like that.

The WWE needs to either get plans to trash ECW, or clean it up a bit so I can keep up with what's going on.

Rage11

Now, let's look at this from all angles here.

You and I, along with the rest of the people here are considered 'smarks' therefor, we think we are...better, to say the least. Better in opinions, knowledge etc. So big show vs. Bobby Lashley, or Umaga vs. John Cena might seem like to the bottom of the barrel to us.

However, to the stereotypical 'mark' the exact opposite of 'us' this is like the next coming of god. Now think, three faces all hold championship belts on three separate brands, and all is good to them.

In WWE management, the triple face combo's merchandise is selling like hot cakes, especially a certain 'John Cena' who seems to be pretty popular. Faces winning = money and ratings. The last thing the WWE wants to do is get the people who buy the tickets to their TV events mad. Even though that seems very unrealistic at times.

This is all of course my opinion, you guys can disagree/fight over this all you want.

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#31 Rage11
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[QUOTE="Rage11"]ECW really needs to go. Boring feuds, same old stuff in every match, and complete unorganization. Plus, Lashley is the ECW Champion.:roll:

-This Mike Knox/Kelly Kelly love storyline is horrible. Nobody gives a **** about Mike Knox.
-Lashley vs. Big Show was a complete snorefest. It sucks Big Show had to end his career with a crappy match like that.

The WWE needs to either get plans to trash ECW, or clean it up a bit so I can keep up with what's going on.

MistaMike54

Now, let's look at this from all angles here.

You and I, along with the rest of the people here are considered 'smarks' therefor, we think we are...better, to say the least. Better in opinions, knowledge etc. So big show vs. Bobby Lashley, or Umaga vs. John Cena might seem like to the bottom of the barrel to us.

However, to the stereotypical 'mark' the exact opposite of 'us' this is like the next coming of god. Now think, three faces all hold championship belts on three separate brands, and all is good to them.

In WWE management, the triple face combo's merchandise is selling like hot cakes, especially a certain 'John Cena' who seems to be pretty popular. Faces winning = money and ratings. The last thing the WWE wants to do is get the people who buy the tickets to their TV events mad. Even though that seems very unrealistic at times.

This is all of course my opinion, you guys can disagree/fight over this all you want.



Yeah I understand all that, but what I was trying to say is that ECW seems to be pointless and seems to be a waste a talent for guys like RVD, Sabu, and CM Punk to be there, when the only champion of the brand is Bobby Lashley. I think RVD definitely should've won the title, and became the top face champion and not Lashley. He's just as popular with the 'marks' if not more. Also, there's nothing "extreme" anymore about this brand anymore. I have trouble keeping up with what the heck's going on with ECW with wrestlers from Raw and SmackDown on there all the time, along with wrestlers jumping ship all the time it seems. December to Dismember bombed, I couldn't believe the WWE put on such a horrible PPV. However at the same time, ECW is allowing guys like Hardcore Holly and Test to get TV time that they never would've gotten before. But that is not enough to get me to want ECW to go on. I think if ECW doesn't improve and continues like this, the entire WWE is going to be ****ed up.
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Well, in MistaMike54's defense, I can see where he is coming from. RVD isn't champion for the simple fact that mangement isn't happy with him, thusly not putting the title on him. Look at Orton: it took a while for him to get 'trust' with management before he could get a title. That's why the title is on the three faces: management trusts them. And as for Hardcore Holly and Test being utilized now, it's because ECW is the 'Heat/Velocity' of the brands. You have your major players on Raw (DX, Rated RKO, Cena, etc.) and SmackDown! (Batista, King Booker, Taker, etc.) and then you have the guys who would be stuck underneath them (Test, Hardcore Holly, Big Show, etc.) there because they actually get a chance to wrestle and it 'means something'. You're right though that ECW isn't hardcore anymore, but that gives Vince a chance to control the atmosphere how he feels right.

I'll end on this: You know ECW isn't ECW anymore when Sandman is busting beer cans on his head right above 7 year olds with "Hustle. Loyalty. Respect." shirts on.

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#33 holysubzerolimi
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umm yeeaa--- vickie and ashley suck at acting.

 all the storylines on smackdown are so boring, except for the englishmen vs. londricks. thats the only thing i like about smackdown right now, of course it would be better if they werent doing the "love triangle" plot. but anyway, all the other storylines seem so old. i mean weve seen kane v mvp/ taker v kennedy (vice-versa) about 5 times now. and benoit in his feud with chavo is so dumb cuz well chavo and vickie are boring--thats it, they just bore me to death. and for the main eventers, we need a good, face main eventer cuz batista is basically the only one. and after we get a good one, separate booker or finlay and put him in that feud.